Category talk:Pioneer

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I am not sure if I like the way the Pioneer badges have been reorganized. I know they needed to be organized at some point in time as the number of pages was growing, but I do not prefer the alphabetical categorizing as well as the category categorizing. - Michael

Agreed, at this point there are too many Pioneer pages to keep on the home page, but two few to be breaking them into categories beyond alphabetization. Giving them subcategories doesn't necessarily enhance the ease of finding certain pages at this point. As we see more pages pop up, however, this could become quite helpful. Msmith312 04:57, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
The subcategories are meant to group together pages of the same topic, not necessarily "break them up" into separate categories. The Literature, Tech., etc. categories were actually created before the Pioneer category and were later added as child categories, since essentially every page on the Wiki is a pioneer page. - Chris
I suppose its the placement that has me confused. Placing the subcategories over the alphabetical organization makes the reader focus on the categories first rather than giving a list of all the pages available, which might lead to some confusion. I know when I first looked at the page, I went "oh great, I have to sift through categories to find these pages now?," not initially noticing the alphabetized list below even though both were clearly visible on my laptop's large screen. Perhaps simply shifting the focus on the page would suffice. Just my initial thoughts, like I said overall this will be a big help. Msmith312 14:16, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Swap the alphabetical listing and the subcategories, and that would clear it up quite a bit. Beyond that, I think it looks fine. --Jmayhue3 15:10, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I like the idea but the current state is the default wiki categorization layout. I'm not sure it can be changed easily. --Chood 15:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I like the arrangement as well, but I think that the columns of alphabetized links should be a little more even. There's no real need for the "D cont." section, since there's plenty of room in the first column. Also, if the subcategories could be listed in a row instead of a column, I think it would be much more readable.Rcrl3 16:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Maybe you should change it, then. --Chood 21:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I attempted to swap the alphabetical category with the subcategories, and I agree with Chood, it doesn't look like it can be changed easily. At least, its beyond my experience and skill level concerning wikis anyway. Ah well, I can live with it XD, besides this'll really shine if we get a few more pages in the mix. Msmith312 23:51, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Chood there as well, this does not look like it can be changed that easily as I do not have the skills needed either. - Colby
just curious would it be possible to set the categories next to the alphabetical listing like a sidebar type thing. This would allow the best of both worlds and not cause a viewer to feel overwhelmed by the bureaucratic style of horizontal organization since the focus will not completely be on the catagories section. -Cody

Huge picture is huge... --Chood 04:02, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey Komaski, instead of editing the page a billion times to mess with the image size, just use the "preview page" button instead. Thanks. --Chood 04:09, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
My bad Chris I had tried that trick for something else when i messed up and it gave me an error so I just decided to take the straight forward method -Cody
The image should probably be resize to the size of a typical web banner. It is taking too much space "above the fold." Also, it seems that the aspect ratio has been skewed a little? Bmenn3 20:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

How do I create a new pioneer page now when everything is listed i categories, I am confused...? - Frida

Create a new page. After it has been created, add [[Category:Pioneer]] to the bottom of the article. The page will then automatically appear in the pioneer category page. --Chood 00:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok Thanks! - Frida

I think a more appropriate size for the current picture, if not a completely different picture, is in order. It significantly throws of the consistency of the page and is not aligned properly. What do you guys think? --ltolentino3

Agreed, the current image on the page right now is pushing the subcategories all the way to the right, and it just isn't very aesthetically pleasing. The picture could be resized as a banner type and be at the very top of the page, or just put in a place where it doesn't interfere with the layout.
I'll try to put something up more pleasing and sized proportionally later this afternoon. Bmenn3 14:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and reduced it's size for now. Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;-- 15:04, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't like it a thumbnail. I think it should resemble the Archeologist page as a big picture at the top of the page. I'd try changing it myself to see if it looks better but pictures on wiki hate me and always do the exact opposite of what I want them to do. - pthakore1
Just uploaded the new banner, hope everyone likes it. There might be some scaling issues. I can't quite make the size correct relative to the page (there's no setting for width in percentages). If someone does figure it out, please let me know and/or fix the banner on the main page too. Thanks. Bmenn3 22:30, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
I've resized it to 1024x200px so it will fit better on more screen. There were some complaint about the main page banner being too large. Bmenn3 23:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
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